Is the artificially prolonged adolescence, in the USA, good for society?

Is the artificially prolonged adolescence, in the USA, good for society?

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Now, to our essay topic:  Is the artificially prolonged adolescence, in the USA, good for society?  (Stick with me here, we eventually get to some important points worth pondering.)

The genesis of this essay is partly in recent personal experiences of the past few years in the neighborhood in which I have lived for the past 10.5 years.  There is a group of teenage boys a couple of houses away that have repeatedly trashed my yard and driveway and done other needless, malicious acts to others’ property on this street.  But, this problematic behavior really arises from the boys’ lack of self-control and almost total lack of self-discipline.  Now, who is to blame for that?!  I won’t dignify the sperm donor and the egg donor of these boys with the label of “parents”.  Here is why.  If you do not care enough about the children, that you conceive, to discipline them as they are growing up, then you are shirking your responsibility as parents.

The question then arises, why did you conceive these children in the first place(?), if you knew that you were not going to make the attempt to discipline them, and teach them right from wrong?  Undisciplined children are usually very miserable and they “grow up” to become miserable “adults” who tend to make others around them unhappy (misery loves company).  Now, we all know that some children resist their parents’ attempts at instilling discipline in them.  But, the attempts, by the parents, still need to be made.  (Regardless of the churchmen’s severe pronouncements, people are going to have sex.  That is the reality!  But, if they know they won’t (or don’t) give a damn about any children they might have, why are they conceiving these children in the first place?  Bottom line: If you bring children into this troubled world, discipline them and raise them to be responsible adults.)

The larger (macro) issue in these United States is the artificially prolonged adolescence of the young.  By that I mean, the postponement of their assumption of at least some responsibilities for their lives until very much later than in most other societies on the planet.  Consider that we are, I believe, the only industrial country in the world where students finish high school (those that do finish) at age 18.  Most other countries have their young people out of high school, or secondary school at age 16.  At which time, they either go on to college, attend a trade school, or go to work on a farm, in a small business or in a factory.  This is true in much of Asia, and in Europe.  (Not sure of this, but I had heard that the adding of 2 extra years of schooling for the young in the US was a short sighted attempt at reducing unemployment in an early 20th century recession.  It would/could only have helped for that one recession though.)

In these other nations, young people come out of college at 20 or 21, and can start their working lives and get married at that point (early 20s).  For those who attend trade schools or start working right after secondary school, they can marry earlier.  Recall that, until recent decades, it was common for young women, in the US, to marry in their late teens and early 20s.  Young men often married in their early 20s as well.  Now, we have young people not marrying until, on average, their mid 20s, and in many cases much later, if they get married at all.

Setting aside current pressing economic considerations (the Obama economy’s abject failure at creating additional jobs!), the question arises why cannot we do the same in this industrial country?  If we really now do need for students to complete 12 years of schooling in order to be able to enter a modern college, or work productively in a 21st century modern technological economy, why can’t we have those 12 years compressed into 10 by having year round schools throughout the nation.  Children with too much time on their hands on long summer vacations and left unsupervised by working parents do tend to get themselves into various types of trouble (drug use, teenage promiscuity, pregnancy, etc.).

Year round schools, to get students graduated by age 16, would have the advantage of keeping young people more focused on making continuing, steady progress to early adulthood – which would arrive 2 years sooner.  The earlier these young people start taking responsibility for their lives by working and getting married (both of which require being responsible and mature!), the better off society as a whole would be.  The talent and energy of the young will not be wasted by extra years in school.  The young will be less frustrated and more engaged in the society in constructive ways.

The main reasons why we don’t do this in the US are 1. that we don’t even think of the possibility as this is just what we have always done and is therefore accepted without question (which is also the unfortunate case with infant male circumcision); and 2. even if we do think of it, for the few that do so, it is that we don’t believe this approach is workable here.  But, that is crap.  This approach works in other modern industrial nations and they experience lower rates of teenage drug use, lower rates of teenage violent crime, lower rates of teenage pregnancy (out-of-wedlock), and lower STD rates.  These other societies are far from perfect, but on this score, they are light years ahead of and better than the USA is.

Lastly, for those religious folks that are reluctant or afraid to have any confidence in the young, or who suffer from an extreme Augustinian sexual pessimism and therefore are opposed to young people marrying “too young”, I can only ask: why then do you bless the marriages of boys and girls in their mid teens in the agrarian third world every day of the year?!  (On a tangential point, we could consider getting the hormones out of the meats and dairy products these children consume, and then we might see the onset of physical sexual maturation, in these children, go back up to the early to mid teens as in our grandparents’ day.  But, don’t hold your breath waiting for that issue to be seriously discussed and considered!)

Thank you for reading and for thinking about this!


  1. Really intelligently written, and many good points made, some of which were relatable to the society I reside in. I don’t exactly know if the post was meant to be ‘comedic’, but the way it was worded, especially your inability to sugar coat the isuses like so many people so often do was quite good to experience. In Australia, we are obviously very much like you Yanks (is this word racist?) cuz we are at school until age 18 as well. I never really thought about the issues regarding lengthy haituses between the school years being problematic and inevitbaly the cause for much of the orgey’s of utmost idiocy that teenagers involve themsleves in, but it is a very good point, and does explain a lot. However, I think school is lengthy because teenagers need as much education as posisble, and true, maybe I agree that holidays could be shortened, but still, I think when a person is older, and therefore, hopefully more mature, they can take to the workforce more professionally. If I were an employer, I would not think of a 19 year old as an acceptable member for hire, even if they did have as much qualification as a twenty something year old.
    Here in Oz, many teenagers act aggresisvely by demolishing other people’s property and acting like sterotypical holligans without a care in the world, and your point on why would the ‘parents’ conceive these kids if they care little about teaching them respect and decency is a very interesting and agreeable point. The one part of your post I would argue against however, and you can slap me with a comment if I interpretted this wrongly, was the idea on how teengers and young adults in America were once expected to marry young. I think the expectation is something that should not be forced upon people, and that they should only ever engage in such life choices if they believe them to be right, not because the social norm says ‘do this or you are a bad member of our society!’ Forgive me also if this too was a wrong interpretation, but adjunctively, although I do not condone the actions of teenagers, as I made clear earlier in my piece, I think they also should have the ability to make some errors and expeirment with what life has to offer, cuz you are only ever young once. We do not want people to grow up too fast. I may only be on the verge of hitting 23, but theereare also a number of things expected of me now, and I myself ain’t sure I’m ready for such endeavors. If I feel that way, then others of my age might too, and so especially would younger people.
    Also, in regards to your ideas on how teenagers seem less mature, and people are failing to become mature adults as fast as they once did – total agreement with you. I would personally argue, and no offence to you or the rest of the human race, that the human race is naturally becoming more incompetant. In my view, by the year 3000, the average IQ might very well be 12, and maturity will be something one gains by age 90, if at all. Then this post of a time when there were immature young adults would be something of a dream world that we wish we still had…
    again, good post, and is it just me, or is this comment REALLY long?

    1. Thank you naughtynefarious for your comment. A bit lengthy, but you raise some good points. Forgive the lag in approving your comment, we are in very different time zones.

      Hey, I recently read a book on Tasmania, your southern most state and it was originally a convict, penal colony like Sydney was. As for current Aussie youth being hooligans, perhaps it is in their blood or their genes. Only kidding. 😉

      I think we have been conditioned to believe that the young will not, or cannot, accept any responsiblity for their lives until they are in their 20s. Here is something to think about. In the states (in the USA) that allow drinking at age 18, auto accidents due to youth driving under the influence of alcohol are very high in the 18 to 21 age group. In those states where the drinking age is 21, you see lots of auto accidents and fatalities among the 21 to 24 year old age group. So, young people a little older are not so much wiser or more responsible in all matters. Perhaps, not the best example.

      But, I still think that by engaging the youth more fully and at an earlier age, we can avoid many instances of self destructive behavior among the youth.

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